Your theories about Grand Finale's hidden truth.

lepapillonrouge wrote:I don't know if Oswald would like that very much...

-door knocks-
Oswald: Who is it?
Fangirls: OMG IT'S OSWALD! MARRY ME! HAVE MY BABIES! KYAAAAAA
Oswald: -shuts door-

I didn't refer to that.. ._. I mean.
Yes yes yes I love Oswald.
But I wouldn't ever do something like that.
I think it's pretty pathetic, sure I squeel and yell and gasp whenever I see him in the game.
Sure, I always try to remember things about him.
dklgtjkh.
But I wouldn't do that! D:
And plus if I were the president, I wouldn't allow others to do that.
Sure, of course on his birthday we'd probably go to his house and send him gifts.
But try to act normal and polite dude!
xD He has a daughter and a wife, remember?
So what's the point in saying 'MARRY ME!'
Ah, maybe I'm not standing true as a fangirl by being well like this.
But I think that it would be a fail if someone did that.Then they'd be psychos really.
.__. so if that ever got approved.. I don't think I'd let anyone do that as their president.
I'd encourage everyone to love Oswald, to vote for him in threads, to search for fanart of him, to do fanart of him and such! (: Just like supporting him and trying to get him to be as popular as he can get so everyone will know of him and will like him! Like a king or such!
Oswald: I always wanted to rule the world.
Something like that! xD
*Shot*

lepapillonrouge wrote:You also know that many people would kill to be the Oswald Fan Club president, right? XD

OH WHO ME?! D:<
I'D KILL THEM BEFORE THEY'D EVEN TOUCH ME! BWAHAHAHAHA!
BLOODSHED! GORE! HORROR! Yes.. That's my favorite. <3
SO DARE YOU LAY A HAND ON ME D:< And BWAHAHAHA!
*Alice in Wonderland quote*
OFF WITH HIS HEAD! rofl.
xD

I know. But still...fangirls are fangirls after all XDDDD

Actually, can you be the president?! XD You'd set down a lot of rules for all the Oswald fans so that our ex-Demon Lord of worship can have some space XD Hahaha.

IN THE MEANWHILE...

More theories, more theories...
WHO IS GOING TO WIN -shot- Okay not really a good one but...

HOW IS IGNITIO GOING TO GO BACK HOME?! XD; I guess. And don't say magic because that's too simple. XD

lepapillonrouge wrote:I know. But still...fangirls are fangirls after all XDDDD

Actually, can you be the president?! XD You'd set down a lot of rules for all the Oswald fans so that our ex-Demon Lord of worship can have some space XD Hahaha.

AHAHA! xD Why thank you. Yes yes yes, he needs some peace. And also that way maybe we can gather all the fans round and set them up so they won't bug Oswald as much. OH MY I even have an idea on how to actually do it! How about going on points? Like..
Hmm everytime you post a fanart, support Oswald in some way by getting him popular even tell your friends about Oswald and make them like him and bring more people to the club, you'd earn some points by your action.
And everytime you start bugging Oswald, or declaring your undying love for him all of the sudden, claiming him as yours and such, your points will go down.
Well it's just a theory ! xD
But it'd be fun.

lepapillonrouge wrote:
IN THE MEANWHILE...

More theories, more theories...
WHO IS GOING TO WIN -shot- Okay not really a good one but...

HOW IS IGNITIO GOING TO GO BACK HOME?! XD; I guess. And don't say magic because that's too simple. XD

Ack yes back to the topic, theories huh?
I have one for you, is Zephy-chan Cain's other self? Oswald seems to know him a bit and I'm just guessing.
I also have a feeling that Zephy-chan either had a sad past which involved lots of murders and things, or he really screwed up his childhood in a way, and kept murdering people / getting into fights / etc without a good reason and he'd always run away from home, or things like that.

Now a question, what would Thanos want with some documents? I mean he's an immortal technically, so why'd he need the documents? Is this related to Oswald, or does he have some weird plan or something?
*CoughIBetSomehowHelbergGotAHoldOfHisBabyPicturesAndHeWantsThemBackButHeCouldntFindThemCough*

Now documents are for fetish!

Kidding...

This is not clear,don't believe in rumors so easily! MWAHAHA! PEOPLE IN THE GUILD ARE SOO STUPID! MWAHAHAHA!

*coughs*

so true but it is really weird it think about it

I knew it! Helberg clearly stole his own documents! I mean, the duct tape seal on his door wasn't broken, so only he himself could have touched his documents! Oh! Oh! We never see Helberg, right?! Helberg and Lenarche are actually split personalities!!! So if Lenarche is Helberg, it makes total sense for her to be Zephy's mom! And that means Lenarche is Thanos' granddaughter! Haha I'm so smart!

Kirroha wrote:I knew it! Helberg clearly stole his own documents! I mean, the duct tape seal on his door wasn't broken, so only he himself could have touched his documents! Oh! Oh! We never see Helberg, right?! Helberg and Lenarche are actually split personalities!!! So if Lenarche is Helberg, it makes total sense for her to be Zephy's mom! And that means Lenarche is Thanos' granddaughter! Haha I'm so smart!

You should put a sig to add internets so I can give you internets for being awesome.

My theories...

1. Where's Lenarche's family? Who is she?

Lenarche is the reincarnation of Vestoria, like some have said. I haven't played the first game in a long time, but she might have another self, which is Lenarche. Well, Vestoria is dead, and the first question is almost the same as the "Where are the immortals" question.

2. Character secrets and so on... (e.g Behind Zeph's mask, why Shea is alive, and so on...)

-What's behind Zephyr's mask?
Well, in the Realm of Thanos, Gil had a hood. He was hiding his mark (don't know what to call it). But Zephyr is human. Maybe he's only almost human? He's kind of a half and he want's to hide it?

-Why is Shea alive?
I haven't played the games well enough... ^^; I don't really know much about demons. He probably used a rune gun over and over to detransform himself into a lighteater, I guess. Can't demons be reborn?

3. The main villain?

I don't know, we will find out later. xD

4. Where's Oswald and .co?

Immortals can die under certain situations. It's possible that Valen's family dies. Or, it could be that they are just hiding. Or they went back to Earth.

Whoa,whoa, whoa, I just realized something. Valen didn't turn Cain immortal. Cain was already an immortal. That means they could have created two immortals... which is kinda a moot point now that I think about it. I mean, whoop de doo they can have two kids instead of one. Well, I guess Cain or Valen could make whoever immortal. I guess it's not that big a breakthrough after all (especially since people probably already knew this). Eheheh...

*EDIT*

I also just realized that Cain is 30 when he meets Valen. Because during RoT he was 5 and RotA happens 25 years in the future, right? I guess since he's immortal that's why he looks young. But it doesn't make sense that Valen and Cain were both little kids when they met in the realm. Oswald and Cheryl waited 10 years before having a kid and then Valen must have been 4 or 5 to be talking to Cain. Then Cain would have been almost 20 . Am I getting this all wrong? My brain hurts T_T.

sayuri wrote:Whoa,whoa, whoa, I just realized something. Valen didn't turn Cain immortal. Cain was already an immortal. That means they could have created two immortals... which is kinda a moot point now that I think about it. I mean, whoop de doo they can have two kids instead of one. Well, I guess Cain or Valen could make whoever immortal. I guess it's not that big a breakthrough after all (especially since people probably already knew this). Eheheh...

*EDIT*

I also just realized that Cain is 30 when he meets Valen. Because during RoT he was 5 and RotA happens 25 years in the future, right? I guess since he's immortal that's why he looks young. But it doesn't make sense that Valen and Cain were both little kids when they met in the realm. Oswald and Cheryl waited 10 years before having a kid and then Valen must have been 4 or 5 to be talking to Cain. Then Cain would have been almost 20 . Am I getting this all wrong? My brain hurts T_T.

Technically, they couldn't have two kids, because Valen's the one to uh...birth the baby, and if Cain could make a baby immortal, what's it supposed to be when it's born? They're both immortals, so they have to make an immortal. If they have a second kid, Valen would die because she's the one making an immortal. I think?

Also, I think it said in the game that since Cain was trapped in the Realm, his growth slowed a lot, and growth speed only returns after he's strong enough to get outta there. Sealed, I believe.

Ominias wrote:

sayuri wrote:Whoa,whoa, whoa, I just realized something. Valen didn't turn Cain immortal. Cain was already an immortal. That means they could have created two immortals... which is kinda a moot point now that I think about it. I mean, whoop de doo they can have two kids instead of one. Well, I guess Cain or Valen could make whoever immortal. I guess it's not that big a breakthrough after all (especially since people probably already knew this). Eheheh...

*EDIT*

I also just realized that Cain is 30 when he meets Valen. Because during RoT he was 5 and RotA happens 25 years in the future, right? I guess since he's immortal that's why he looks young. But it doesn't make sense that Valen and Cain were both little kids when they met in the realm. Oswald and Cheryl waited 10 years before having a kid and then Valen must have been 4 or 5 to be talking to Cain. Then Cain would have been almost 20 . Am I getting this all wrong? My brain hurts T_T.

Technically, they couldn't have two kids, because Valen's the one to uh...birth the baby, and if Cain could make a baby immortal, what's it supposed to be when it's born? They're both immortals, so they have to make an immortal. If they have a second kid, Valen would die because she's the one making an immortal. I think?

Also, I think it said in the game that since Cain was trapped in the Realm, his growth slowed a lot, and growth speed only returns after he's strong enough to get outta there. Sealed, I believe.

Actually, when the realm was sealed after ROT, it was cheryl and valen who release cain. When he was sealed, his growth stopped, so he was still 5 when he met Valen and grows normally after that.

Remember, he turns immortal after Thanos made him one.

lepapillonrouge wrote:I think this:


is under Zephyr's mask
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Yeah, I was a little surprised to hear that Zephyr is a 'human'...considering that his family lineage are halves. So he's definitely not full human, but it depends on how his family was breeding after Raven's time. If they did marry into the Vanguardion family, it might've diluted the elven blood.

Shea's a demon, and thus when he was killed re-entered the demon rebirth cycle. According to RotA, people who have a lot of hatred can become demons, which happened to Shea when he was the High Sorcerer Sirius Vermillion. He became a demon, killed by Cain, then began a new life as a demon in this time. ;3 Apparently, also, demons remember their past lives.

We'll know who the main villain is when he uses DUCT TAPE! Because only evil people use such sticky stuff.

haha if only that was really under his mask xD i would love him more

I think it was mentioned in the demo that zephyr is half human...I think Len was the one that said that he can't be fully human...wouldn't it be funny if Thanos comes in with a mask as well then takes it off later? xD 2x zephyr in the game!

[quote="Kirroha"]
4. Where's Oswald and .co?
Let me explore the following possibilities:
a) Immortals live forever, so Cain and Valen after 200 years are still having their honeymoon and Cheryl/Oswald are happily with them.
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LOL , AFTER 200 YEARS?!xDDD

Emmeeeh wrote:

lepapillonrouge wrote: But it just shows that Len is one of us! We can't stop fangirling about Oswald although he has a wife, a kid, and is about 14 times older than us XD

*Gasp*
SO TRUE!
BUT ONE DAY.. I'LL BECOME AN IMMORTAL TOO! *Weird dreams*
LET US ALL OSWALD FANGIRLS GET TOGETHER AND FORM A BIG BIG OSWALD FAN CLUB!
I'LL BE THE PRESIDENT (:<
*Cheer*

meeeeeeeeeeeeh!!!!!!!!!xDDDDDDDDDDD